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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vermutlich ist dann diese Kombination besser, und auch günstiger:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.solarzellen-shop.de/solar-akkus/12v-gel-akkus-solar-gel-batterien/75ah-gelakku-gelbatterie-wt-sg075-12.html">http://www.solarzellen-shop.de/solar-akkus/12v-gel-akkus-solar-gel-batterien/75ah-gelakku-gelbatterie-wt-sg075-12.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.solarzellen-shop.de/solarset/solarset-basic-spar-50-watt-inkl-laderegler-kabel.html">http://www.solarzellen-shop.de/solarset/solarset-basic-spar-50-watt-inkl-laderegler-kabel.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>24*7*365 betrieb ist natürlich schon wichtig, sollen ja alle was davon haben </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>lG,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> markus.kittenberger@gmail.com [mailto:markus.kittenberger@gmail.com] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Markus Kittenberger<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 1. März 2014 00:13<br><b>An:</b> Stefan Reisenbauer<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Wien] 5Ghz Node - Strombedarf ausrechnen - Solar/Wind<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nur bedingt empfehlenswert dieses Set.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Die Dimensionierung ist ok, der Preis nicht gut aber noch im Rahmen, der Bleiakku des Sets wirds (falls die Installation für Dauer- bzw. Ganzjahresbetrieb gedacht) halt nicht sehr lange mitmachen.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>lg Markus<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2014-02-28 23:45 GMT+01:00 Stefan Reisenbauer <<a href="mailto:stefan@reisenbauer.org" target="_blank">stefan@reisenbauer.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hallo Markus,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>danke für den Tipp mit den SXT Lite!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ich werde mir wohl dann das set hier kaufen: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.conrad.at/ce/de/product/110573/Solar-Set-PN-SK1-inkl-Anschlusskabel-inkl-Laderegler-inkl-Akku-Phaesun-50-Wp?ref=list" target="_blank">http://www.conrad.at/ce/de/product/110573/Solar-Set-PN-SK1-inkl-Anschlusskabel-inkl-Laderegler-inkl-Akku-Phaesun-50-Wp?ref=list</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Damit sollte das Ding dann auch 1,2 Tage ohne Sonne auskommen …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>lG,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Stefan</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:markus.kittenberger@gmail.com" target="_blank">markus.kittenberger@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:markus.kittenberger@gmail.com" target="_blank">markus.kittenberger@gmail.com</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Markus Kittenberger<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 28. Februar 2014 23:34<br><b>An:</b> Stefan Reisenbauer<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wien@lists.funkfeuer.at" target="_blank">wien@lists.funkfeuer.at</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Wien] 5Ghz Node - Strombedarf ausrechnen - Solar/Wind</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2014-02-28 21:40 GMT+01:00 Stefan Reisenbauer <<a href="mailto:stefan@reisenbauer.org" target="_blank">stefan@reisenbauer.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hallo zusammen,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ich plane gerade einen neuen Node zu erbauen, an der gewünschten Stelle hab ich leider keine Steckdose zur Verfügung,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>daher werde ich das wohl mit Solar und/oder mit Windenergie speisen müssen.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ist jemand von euch so nett und hilft mir die „mindest Anforderungen“ zu berechnen? Hab das leider noch nie gemacht!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hardware:<o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span><a href="http://routerboard.com/RBSXT5HPnD" target="_blank">http://routerboard.com/RBSXT5HPnD</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aja SXT lite wären besser da sie ca. die Hälfte an Strom brauchen.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://routerboard.com/RBSXT5nDr2" target="_blank">http://routerboard.com/RBSXT5nDr2</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p> (brauche 2 an dem Standort)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Das beiliegende Netzteil liefert 0.8A per 24.0V<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Das hat nix mit dem tatsächlichen Verbrauch der Routern zu tun, ausser dass dieser sicher deutlich drunter liegt. " (Normale SXT brauchen üblicherweise ~ 3W)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aja würd ein 12V System (Solarzelle / Laderegler / Batterien empfehlen) ausser die Kabelänge von den Akkus zu den Routern wäre > 20m.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Aja falls das ganze länger als ein paar Monate "funktionieren" soll, würd ich keine Bleiakkus verwenden!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>, die Anlage sollte rund 2 Tage ohne Licht/Wind auskommen, die Devices<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>geben sich mit Spannung im Bereich von 9 bis 30 Volt zufrieden.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Wie rechnet man das am besten aus?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Leistung der Router (in W) * Dauer = Batteriekapazität in Wh<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(Für 2 SXT Lite ca. 150 Wh)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Die Auslegung der Solarzellen bzw gar eines Windrades ist "komplizierter", vorallem wenn du gern hättest das es quasi immer geht (-;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Legst du darauf "keinen" Wert würd ich sagen die Mindestanforderung hierfür wäre, dass an schönen Tagen die Batterien innerhalb eines Tages (bzw. 4-5h) voll wären, also 30-50W Solarpanel.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>lg Markus<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>