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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hallo!<br>
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      Am 2014-01-14 00:51, schrieb Roland Spitzlinger:<br>
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      Hallo,<br>
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      <div>danke Peter und Jakob für eure Antwort!</div>
      <div>Ich bin ja eigentlich schon in Kontakt mit Martin von der
        Goldegggasse. Nur konnte ich seinen "Node 1423“ nicht empfangen.
        Und das obwohl er nur zwei Strassen entfernt ist und eigentlich
        Sichtverbindung herrschen sollte. Aber gut, gesehen hab ich die
        Antenne nicht.</div>
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    Der Node "Goldegg26" hat aktuell nur eine Verbindung zu OZW auf 5
    GHz; Auch einige Deiner Nachbarn senden nicht auf 2.4GHz, daher
    wirst Du mit einer Airgrid M2 auf 2,4 GHz diese nicht scannen
    können.<br>
    Die Node ID stimmt laut Map nicht überein - sprechen wir von
    demselben Node?<br>
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      <div>Vielleicht wäre es in dem Fall aber eh besser mich an den <b>v13.<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://kr3.wien.funkfeuer.at">kr3.wien.funkfeuer.at</a></b> dran
        zu hängen? Nicht nur weil dieser Node laut Jakob super
        angebunden ist, sondern weil es auch noch der Node ist, der den
        mit Abstand besten und stabilsten Empfang bot.</div>
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    KR3: Ich kann gerne für Dich Scans auf Kr3 durchführen. Was seine
    Anbindung anbelangt, scheint Jakobs Information nicht ganz der Lage
    zu entsprechen. Zwar wird eine gute Datenrate angezeigt, effektiv
    wird diese aber kein allzu hoher Datendurchsatz erreicht. Die
    Anbindung erfolgt nicht redundant über einen einzelnen Peer. Die
    Betreiber sind aber durchaus an Peerings interessiert und stehen
    auch einer Neuausrichtung der Antennen nicht im Weg.<br>
    Schick mir bitte einmal ein Foto mit Blickrichtung kr3 - es muss
    nicht über die Liste sein - oder stell es in die Gallery, wenn Dir
    das Recht ist.<br>
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      <div>Welche Antenne ist mir eigentlich egal. Den WRT54G hab ich
        erwähnt, weil ich der auf dem <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://wiki.funkfeuer.at/wiki/FAQ#Was_kostet_das.3F">Funkteuer-Wiki</a> vorgeschlagen
        wird. </div>
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    Funkteuer? Dr. Freud lässt grüßen. ;-)<br>
    Ja, den WRT54G/GL verwenden wir nur noch selten. Die Technologie ist
    mittlerweile 12 Jahre alt und bringt in vielen Fällen nicht mehr die
    erwünschte Leistung.<br>
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      <div>Ich verlasse mich da aber ganz auf eure Vorschläge. Ich nehme
        auch gerne (trotz der enormen Größe) ein <a
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href="http://www.ebay.at/itm/AirGrid-M2-AG-2G20-20dBi-Gitter-Antenne-17-x-24-UBNT-InnerFeed-W-LAN-/271361490369?pt=DE_Computing_Booster_Extender_Antennen&hash=item3f2e67bdc1">Airgrid
          M2</a>, wenn das besser ist. Die Spezifikationen klingen ja
        schon mal ganz gut.</div>
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      <div>Ich war schon im Dezember mal im Metalab. Account hab ich
        aber noch keinen.</div>
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    Dann solltest Du Dich dort nocheinmal beraten lassen, allenfalls
    (Mess-)Equipment ausborgen. Fotos mitzubringen, kann hilfreich sein.<br>
    Mit einem Account kannst Du zudem ein paar Informationen mehr
    einsehen. Beim ersten Aufbau nimm aber besser einen "alten Hasen"
    mit.<br>
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      <div>Liebe Grüße,</div>
      <div>Roland</div>
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      <div>PS: Ich hab leider momentan keine Fotoaparat parat. Wenn es
        wichtig ist, dann könnte ich euch aber morgen ein paar
        Macbook-Shots schicken. Die Qualität wird halt nicht besonders
        sein. Wie auch immer, die Aussicht ist gut. Von uns aus sieht
        man halb Wien.</div>
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        <div>Am 13.01.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Jakob Rie <<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jakob.riepler@gmail.com">jakob.riepler@gmail.com</a>>:</div>
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            <div>In der Nanostation ist nur eine andere Antenne (die zur
              Hälfte als Omni zu gebrauchen ist...).<br>
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            <div>Ich weiß von keinen Problemen mit Airgrids (Wohne aber
              auch nicht in der Innenstadt), würde aber meinen, dass
              wenn es mit ner Nanostation geht, dass es dann mit einer
              AirGrid auch gehen müsste :)<br>
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    Die Probleme treten vor allem bei älteren Modellen auf und sind
    höchstwahrscheinlich nur im 2.4GHz-Band, insbesondere bei
    Einstrahlung durch LTE (vor allem nahe Kanal 13) relevant. Die
    5GHz-Modelle weisen meines Wissens (derzeit noch) keine ähnlichen
    Einschränkungen auf.<br>
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            <div>LG Jakob<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">Am 13. Januar 2014 21:42 schrieb <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kaefert@gmail.com">kaefert@gmail.com</a>
              <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:kaefert@gmail.com" target="_blank">kaefert@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">Am 13. Januar 2014 21:29
                      schrieb Jakob Rie <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:jakob.riepler@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">jakob.riepler@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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                            <div class="gmail_extra">So und nochmal für
                              die Liste (vergesse immer auf "allen
                              Antworten" zu gehen ;D<br>
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                              Am 13. Januar 2014 18:52 schrieb Roland
                              Spitzlinger <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                   Hallo Roland!<br>
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                                          <div>ich wohne in der
                                            Weyringergasse 11 und war
                                            gerade am Dach.</div>
                                          <div>Folgende Knoten kann ich
                                            mit einem Macbook Air
                                            empfangen.</div>
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                                            <div><b>Voller Empfang</b></div>
                                            <div>v13.<a
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                                            <div><b>Teilweiser Empfang</b></div>
                                            <div>h13.<a
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                                            <div>v1.<a
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                                                target="_blank">freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                            <div>h1.<a
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                                                target="_blank">wo9.wien.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
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                                            <div><b>Als WLAN-Netz</b> (und
                                              nicht als Gerät) angezeigt
                                              wird auch noch <a
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    Brenner sendet in Deiner Richtung auf Kanal 1 und 13. <br>
    Wo9 ist vermutlich über den Rundstrahler zu empfangen.<br>
    Die v1 und h13 lassen sich vermutlich über die MAC-Adresse (mit
    einem WLAN-Scanner) identifizieren. <br>
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                                  <div>Prinzipiell weiß ich nicht, zu
                                    welchen Knoten die Netze <a
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                                    gehören aber die Knoten wo9 <br>
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                                  und kr3 sind ziemlich gut  angebunden.<br>
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    Wo9: ja; über 5GHz.<br>
    Kr3: solala über wo9.<br>
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                                <div>Brenner sehe ich mehr als eine
                                  "Notelösung" für alle, die sonst
                                  wirklich nirgends anders hinkommen, da
                                  er schon relativ überlastet ist ;)<br>
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                                            <li>Sollen wir uns einen
                                              Linksys WRT54G zulegen?</li>
                                            <li>Wenn ja, gibts da
                                              vielleicht gerade irgendwo
                                              eine Aktion oder kaufe ich
                                              mir das Teil einfach über
                                              eine der folgenden <a
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href="http://funkfeuer.at/Antennen.103.0.html?&L=0%25252F%25252Findex.php%25253Fseite%25253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.indyrx8club.com%25252Fforums%25252Fchat%25252Finc%25252Fcmses%25252Fr57%25253F%25253F%25253F"
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                                            <li>Brauchen wir außer einer
                                              Wetterbox und einem langen
                                              Internetkabel für die
                                              Strecke vom Dach in die
                                              (Dachgeschoß)Wohnung noch
                                              etwas? Ist beim Linksys
                                              WRT54G schon die passende
                                              Antenne dabei oder müssen
                                              wir da aufpassen bzw. uns
                                              eine extra 5GH-Antenne
                                              zulegen?</li>
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                                <div>Im Allgemeinen sind die Linksys
                                  Wrt's nicht mehr wirklich aktuell
                                  (weshalb ich auch komisch finde, warum
                                  sich der Preis von 50€ so gut
                                  hält...).<br>
                                   
                                  <div>Bei der Hardware bin ich hin- und
                                    hergerissen, da es von allen Seiten
                                    andere Empfehlungen gibt (bin ja
                                    selbst noch nicht sooo lange dabei
                                    :) ).<br>
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                                  <div>Ich würde für diesen Fall eine
                                    Airgrid M2 empfehlen, da man am Dach
                                    nicht viel herumschrauben oder
                                    basteln muss sondern nur das Teil
                                    Montiert und das Kabel Runterlegt
                                    und es außerdem ziemlich günstig ist
                                    (ca 60€).<br>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>Gabs da mit den Airgrids und in der Stadt
                        nicht irgendwelche Probleme? Oder war das nur
                        mit den 5 GHz Varianten? Also ich würde ja eher
                        die Nanostations empfehlen. Kosten ca. das selbe
                        wie die Airgrids, aber sind wesentlich
                        handlicher, leichter, und damit flexibler
                        montierbar, und bringen wirklich schönen
                        Durchsatz (zumindest ich hab diese Erfahrungen
                        damit gemacht)</div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Bitte vergleicht keine Airgrid mit einer Nanostation...<br>
    Airgrid: Polarisation beachten. Eventuell Probleme mit 2.4 GHz.
    Single Stream.<br>
    Nanostation: Polarisation weitgehend unbeachtlich. Keine optimale
    Richtwirkung, aber Dual Stream (2x2 MiMo)<br>
    Nanobridge: (Schüssel), "Best of both worlds"<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:F1FEE8F0-1BE1-427F-B863-FD9CE8C3BB3D@gmx.at"
      type="cite">
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        <blockquote type="cite">
          <div class="gmail_extra">
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                  <div class="gmail_extra">
                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                      <div> </div>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
                        0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                          <div class="h5">
                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div class="gmail_extra">
                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                  <div>(Bitte meinen Vorschlag
                                    bestätigen/verbessern/korrigieren
                                    liebe Community :D )<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                      0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                        <div
                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                          <ul>
                                            <li>Als WLAN-Router in der
                                              Wohnung verwenden wir
                                              übrigens eine ältere
                                              Variante von <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="https://www.apple.com/airport-time-capsule/"
                                                target="_blank">Time
                                                Capsule</a>. Hat jemand
                                              Erfahrung mit der
                                              Kombination bzw.
                                              funktioniert das, wenn man
                                              das Funkfeuerkabel da
                                              ansteckt?</li>
                                          </ul>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <div>Ich denke schon, dass der Aufbau
                                  mit einer Time Capsule funktionieren
                                  sollte, da man den Funkfeuer-Router am
                                  Dach einfach an den WAN-Port Stecken
                                  kann (wenn Funkfeuer als einzige
                                  Internetverbindung vorgesehen ist
                                  ansonsten wirds mit einer Time Capsule
                                  komplizierter).<br>
                                </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              LG Jakob</div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">Am 13. Januar
                                2014 19:27 schrieb Jakob Rie <span
                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:jakob.riepler@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">jakob.riepler@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                                  style="margin:0 0 0
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                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div class="gmail_extra">Am 13.
                                      Januar 2014 18:52 schrieb Roland
                                      Spitzlinger <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:r.spitzlinger@gmx.at"
                                          target="_blank">r.spitzlinger@gmx.at</a>></span>:<br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                          <div
                                            style="word-wrap:break-word">Grüß
                                            euch,<br>
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <div><br>
                                           Hallo Roland!<br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                              solid
                                              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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                                                style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                <div
                                                  style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>ich wohne in der
                                                    Weyringergasse 11
                                                    und war gerade am
                                                    Dach.</div>
                                                  <div>Folgende Knoten
                                                    kann ich mit einem
                                                    Macbook Air
                                                    empfangen.</div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><b>Voller
                                                        Empfang</b></div>
                                                    <div>v13.<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://kr3.wien.funkfeuer.at/" target="_blank">kr3.wien.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><b>Teilweiser
                                                        Empfang</b></div>
                                                    <div>h13.<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at/" target="_blank">freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                                    <div>v1.<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at/" target="_blank">freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                                    <div>h1.<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wo9.wien.funkfeuer.at/" target="_blank">wo9.wien.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><b>Als
                                                        WLAN-Netz</b> (und
                                                      nicht als Gerät)
                                                      angezeigt wird
                                                      auch noch <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://brenner.funkfeuer.at/" target="_blank">brenner.funkfeuer.at</a></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>Prinzipiell weiß ich
                                            nicht, zu welchen Knoten die
                                            Netze <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://h13.freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at/"
                                              target="_blank">h13.freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at</a>
                                            und <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://v1.freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at/"
                                              target="_blank">v1.freiesnetz.www.funkfeuer.at</a>
                                            gehören aber die Knoten wo9
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                          und kr3 sind ziemlich gut 
                                          angebunden.<br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Brenner sehe ich mehr als
                                          eine "Notelösung" für alle,
                                          die sonst wirklich nirgends
                                          anders hinkommen, da er schon
                                          relativ überlastet ist ;)<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                              0.8ex;border-left:1px
                                              solid
                                              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div
                                                style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                <div
                                                  style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <ul>
                                                      <li>Sollen wir uns
                                                        einen Linksys
                                                        WRT54G zulegen?</li>
                                                      <li>Wenn ja, gibts
                                                        da vielleicht
                                                        gerade irgendwo
                                                        eine Aktion oder
                                                        kaufe ich mir
                                                        das Teil einfach
                                                        über eine der
                                                        folgenden <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://funkfeuer.at/Antennen.103.0.html?&L=0%25252F%25252Findex.php%25253Fseite%25253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.indyrx8club.com%25252Fforums%25252Fchat%25252Finc%25252Fcmses%25252Fr57%25253F%25253F%25253F"
target="_blank">Quellen</a>?</li>
                                                    </ul>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <ul>
                                                      <li>Brauchen wir
                                                        außer einer
                                                        Wetterbox und
                                                        einem langen
                                                        Internetkabel
                                                        für die Strecke
                                                        vom Dach in die
                                                        (Dachgeschoß)Wohnung
                                                        noch etwas? Ist
                                                        beim Linksys
                                                        WRT54G schon die
                                                        passende Antenne
                                                        dabei oder
                                                        müssen wir da
                                                        aufpassen bzw.
                                                        uns eine extra
                                                        5GH-Antenne
                                                        zulegen?</li>
                                                    </ul>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Im Allgemeinen sind die
                                          Linksys Wrt's nicht mehr
                                          wirklich aktuell (weshalb ich
                                          auch komisch finde, warum sich
                                          der Preis von 50€ so gut
                                          hält...).<br>
                                           
                                          <div>Bei der Hardware bin ich
                                            hin- und hergerissen, da es
                                            von allen Seiten andere
                                            Empfehlungen gibt (bin ja
                                            selbst noch nicht sooo lange
                                            dabei :) ).<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Ich würde für diesen Fall
                                            eine Airgrid M2 empfehlen,
                                            da man am Dach nicht viel
                                            herumschrauben oder basteln
                                            muss sondern nur das Teil
                                            Montiert und das Kabel
                                            Runterlegt und es außerdem
                                            ziemlich günstig ist (ca
                                            60€).<br>
                                          </div>
                                          (Bitte meinen Vorschlag
                                          bestätigen/verbessern/korrigieren
                                          liebe Community :D )<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <blockquote
                                            class="gmail_quote"
                                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                            0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                            <div
                                              style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                              <div
                                                style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                <ul>
                                                  <li>Als WLAN-Router in
                                                    der Wohnung
                                                    verwenden wir
                                                    übrigens eine ältere
                                                    Variante von <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.apple.com/airport-time-capsule/" target="_blank">Time
                                                      Capsule</a>. Hat
                                                    jemand Erfahrung mit
                                                    der Kombination bzw.
                                                    funktioniert das,
                                                    wenn man das
                                                    Funkfeuerkabel da
                                                    ansteckt?</li>
                                                </ul>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Ich denke schon, dass der
                                        Aufbau mit einer Time Capsule
                                        funktionieren sollte, da man den
                                        Funkfeuer-Router am Dach einfach
                                        an den WAN-Port Stecken kann
                                        (wenn Funkfeuer als einzige
                                        Internetverbindung vorgesehen
                                        ist ansonsten wirds mit einer
                                        Time Capsule komplizierter).<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra">LG Jakob<br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
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