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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hallo!<br>
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      Am 2017-03-17 um 07:30 schrieb Christian Pock:<br>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">On 15/03/2017 19:04, Christoph Loesch
          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            Ich weiss es zwar nicht, würde aber stark vermuten, dass man
            die benötigten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Personen, die momentan v6olsrd betreiben, auf ein-zwei
            Händen abzählen kann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            und es ziemlich sicher kein Problem wäre, für v6olsrd2 den
            v6olsrd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">>
            abzudrehen.</span></p>
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    <br>
    Anmerkung: Auf einigen älteren Firmwares läuft eventuell nur eine
    Instanz von OLSRv1 u.z. im Mode "6and4".<br>
    Unter Bedachtnahme auf Alexanders Antwort zu nehmen (Dach: „Hab mal
    gehört, dass nicht alle Knotenbetreiber dort immer so schnell hin
    kommen.“) ein Vorschlag;<br>
    <br>
    In solchen Fällen, wo ja nur OpenWRT-Derivate zum Einsatz kommen,
    wäre es denkbar, eine zweite (WDS) ESSID aufzuspannen und sie mit
    einem dedizierten VLAN zu bridgen. Ein weiterer Router - etwa ein
    EdgeRouter - mit OLSRv2 würde dieses VLAN bedienen. <br>
    <br>
    Diese andere Art des Parallelbetriebs ermöglicht eine schrittweise
    Umstellung, bei der niemand „überrumpelt“ wird. (Wichtig für etwa
    für OZW, Brenner).<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:06be01d29ee7$f91c9680$eb55c380$@pocki.at"
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hallo
            – vielleicht bereichert die weitere Entscheidungsfindung
            folgende Information zur aktuellen Verwendung von IPv6 mit
            olsrv1:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">6-in-4
              Tunnel </span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">[1]<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">15
              IPv4-Adressen</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
            sind zum 6in4-Endpunkt verbunden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">8
              Personen</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
            betreuen diese Nodes (laut Map). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Das
            sind konkret: OZW, wpaeC501, jonnimast, schafbergalm, lax64,
            as5, hohl28, haeher, dfs73, ley23, trt6, mh, pbg9, duer9<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Native
              IPv6 mit olsrv1 </span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">[2]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">119
              IPv6-Adressen</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
            sind in der olsr-Topologie bekannt. 105 mit NodeID und 14
            mit IPv4 als Teil der v6-Adresse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">33
              Nodes</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
            sind das, wenn man von v4 oder NodeID auf den Node
            rückschliesst.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">12
              Personen</span></u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
            betreuen diese Nodes, das sind großteils die gleichen
            Personen wie oben.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Das
            sind konkret: hohl28, nessus, mp, fl49, dg38, pdorf28, ENO,
            ffh, baer2, ows0, hetzendorf, stu7, mei78, OZW, rr72, ley23,
            koelbl15, hag10, schafbergalm, tele3, duer9,
            2380Hochmayer28, goldegg26, bal3, lzstr168, mjc,
            sanktelisabeth, mzg31, mzg32, matbb, matz, ah2, danne20<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    Ich erkenne da etliche Knoten, die auf Bubbles und älter laufen.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:06be01d29ee7$f91c9680$eb55c380$@pocki.at"
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Nicht
            ableiten konnte ich, welche Nodes IPv6 auch wirklich mit
            Datenverkehr abseits des olsrd6 nutzen. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ich
            kann anhand dieser kleinen Analyse bestätigen: die jeweils
            erkennbaren Nodebetreuer konzentrieren sich auf wenige
            bekannte Größen :-)</span></p>
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    <br>
    Ist das ein Vor- oder ein Nachteil? Für die Kommunikation ist es ein
    Vorteil. Hinsichtlich des Arbeitsaufwandes eventuell ein Nachteil.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Lg, Christian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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            lang="EN-US">[1] </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://tunnel6.funkfeuer.at/tunnel6.php"><span
                lang="EN-US">http://tunnel6.funkfeuer.at/tunnel6.php</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://tunnel6.funkfeuer.at/olsrd6_route.php"><span
                lang="EN-US">http://tunnel6.funkfeuer.at/olsrd6_route.php</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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